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Danger to Civil Society from radicalisation of Islam

There is a lot that has been said and a very little done to counter the ideology and to to understand the Why aspect and the How aspect of not only the Mumbai rail blasts but several other terrorist incidents that happen almost routinely in our country. Everyday the news media- i mean especially the tv media screams about someone being arrested, some network being busted, some threat being neutralised and some plan that the terrorists has to blast/ destroy x place, key members behind the Mumbai train plot namely Faizal Sheikh and his 22-year-old brother Muzammil Rehman being taken into custody.The press and the politicians have mainly blamed
.......no guesses needed here -PAKISTAN
This 24 hr news frezy is somehow cluttering our minds and we are loosing perspective or the bigger picture here.
If the Mumbai Police arrests all of them perpetrators of the Mumbai blasts, the question to ask is - will they ever be prosecuted and sentenced in- say a year? Looks quite doubtful if u trust the courts or the second pillar of the Indian democracy badly in need of a complete renovation like the old buildings of Mumbai.Even if they r tried summarily in a military court which is unlikely and HANGED
will the terror attacks in INDIA stop.........id say NO .
What im getting to is that this will repeat keep repeating and we will have to live with it, until there is real change in the whole thinking. What the govt is doing is like plugging holes in a leaky roof instead of fixing it, and i see that there is no political will either to just change the damn roof or concretise or waterproof it.
These terrorists are working with an Ideology and that is what should be countered.
Just killing a few here and arresting a few there will do no good, we will have to get to that ideology and make sure we effectively counter it.
The fault lies not with pakistan but within and until We indians learn to live as a cohesive extended all encompassing family things will never change. Sadly many muslims in india want to maintain a sort of exclusivity...
Please read a very interesting paper from the South Asian Analysts Group by by R. Upadhyay, if u have the patience.
Therefore i grade Muslims in India as :-
1. INDIAN MUSLIMS- who are Indians first, muslims next who believe that the state and the constitution is primary and the religion is secondary and have no quams in saying VANDE MATARAM OR JAI HIND and are secular, highly educated and apolitical people and have thus made a name for themselves in different fields.
2. The Intellectual Cowards and Communist INDIAN MUSLIMS -Who are proud to be Indians, modern secular and integrated with society as a whole, id say model citizens but those who are political or semi political people. They are the ones that are in denial or keeping silent about the existence of people coming under category 3 and 4 in our nation.
They loudly rant that terrorism has no religion & we should be united against it, in one breath and in the very next one call the Shiv sena, RSS and other right wingers as radical Hindu fundamentalists out to destroy the secular fabric of this country.

1 and 2 constitute a large but silent minority, im saying this as i have never seen them taking morchas after the Mumbai blasts or say a word or whimper against the people who take out Morchas at Azad maidan against "Vande Maataram", or Dutch Cartoons.

3. MUSLIM INDIANS and their minions of illiterate followers- (MAJORITY) who are muslims first, Indians next and dont mind living in India on the condition that they will have a state within a state sort of survival.
These are the 5 jamaats ruling muslim india and constituting the extrajudicial body called the AIMPLB,who decide- Muslim law in entirety and are above the supreme court (Shah banoo is case and point). They literally rule the majority of illiterate musilms whose only education is in a madarsa funded by the Indian state and/or funded via Zakaat from rich businessmen or from Middle East, issuing fatwas from the jama masjid and other masjids on every aspect of life, and going to any extent so as to maintain their hegemony and say.Their easiest and biggest targets are women.
Fully supported by politicians Imams like Bukhari and a zealot Urdu press they have managed to keep majority muslims feudal, illiterate and in constant denial of facts.(if urdu press have their way the Mumbai blasts were carried out by radical hindus who also carried out the attack on the RSS headquarters)
Religious discipline and indoctrination is stricty enforced as urdu is the primary methd of education and learning it is compulsory.
read sea wahabism

4. RADICAL MUSLIMS or ISLAMISTS are those people who forgot to goto pakistan when it was formed, need i say more. Their sole intension is to merge india into pakistan
and make it a full muslim state under the pan Islamic caliphate .

5.The Aids virus - the Hindu Muslims-
I don’t need to name the politicians, there are scores of them filling the rank and file of Kanghress, Saamajwadi Party , Rashtriya Janta Dhaal the Kolkatta and Kerala Communists etc -of them mulayam is notorious - he once said we should give pakistan aid,now says simi is innocent and is outdone by his senior state minister Mohammad Azam Khan who demands a ‘Muslim Pradesh’ in Western UP. Congress cant be left behind now can it -they have brought the IMDT Act ruled as anti constitutional by the Supreme court lets not forget the Shah Banoo case either. Our communists r true communists ie anti hindu. The Congress(DMK)and Communists woo parties like the PDP & Indian Union muslim league in South India by passing resolutions in Kerala state assembly to free Coimbatore bomb blast mastermind PDP Terrorist Abdul Nasser Madni -just to garner votes.With IUML AND PDP one need not wonder why simi has major setup in kerala) chk out the flag of IUML

6.Lastly we must not forget the West apeing, Right wing hating,communist loving White or English Press/TV channels of India(who are so politically correct that they almost belong to a certain community)
They know how to hush up or downplay stories like the Hindu Massacre at marad beach in Kerala,Congress party gets the IMDT act from the backdoor in north east to legalise bangaldeshi migrant population while on the other hand they make a big issue about sainiks torching a bus and trying to enforce a bandh(not that its not condemnable).
Hey everyone knows how the likes of the dehli tv channel and the ironically named Hindu
first portrayed the mumbra terrorist Ishrat Jahan (and abt compensations offered by samajwadi and congress to her family).Almost all leading english channels and dailys are filled with communist socialist jnu biproducts that publish enough material nonstop to brainwash hindus into thinking that they are always wrong or to blame when it is quite the opposite.
read rajeevs blog from my links and also read shekar gupta of express below newsweek and its suspect errata.

also a good read - talveen singh talveen singh

YES terrorism has a name and a face and a religion it is extremist wahabi/deobandi/bareilvi islam - which has declared a war against India and they will not stop until they overwhelm to majority, kill or convert every person to their faith or ideology or till they acheive so called martyrdom and they have declared a war on india
- someone should tell this to the most of the Editors of news and print media and the know it all ibn editor and also its citizen journalist- shabana azmi.
If these radicals are like a cancer eating India, then the Politically correct (of a certain community) type English press n Politicians of UPA Samajwadi and Commis are like AIDS destroying our nations immunity.
Dont ask me u can get a lot of material from rajeev or even varnam

Forget dealing with Pakistan and pak based terror outfits like united jihad council or the Lashkar-e-taiba or the jaish e mohammed.The bongling bong defence ministers panicky reaction abt hot persuit is sufficient evidence.BJP is no better as they according to me handled the kargil crices poorly if u take it from the angle of the troops on the ground(even though it was a great PR success branding pakistan as the epicentre of Jihad forever).

The poignant question to ask here is HOW and WHO will deal with the fundamentalist ideology behind the HARKAT UL JIHAAD e TALIBAN E HIND or Harkat ul Taliban-e-Islami Hind(however u want to translate it) ,their idealogues at the Darul Ulum Deoband and their foot soldiers the Tabliti Jamaat, who are eating at the very foundation of the indian state at speed similar to Logging companies destroying rainforests around the world, thanks to the support from inside and outside India.

Not that i am pro BJP let alone the Sena or Bajrang Dal, their stints in maharashtra and the centre were no different from the Congress, but right now like it or not they r essential on the frontline in the war on terror. Wasn’t Mumbai targeted because of a lack of easy targets in Gujarat? Thanks to the no nonsense policy of Modi even after being denied an anti terror law like the mcocca or pota by the congress appointed governor. Secondly though both Congress and BJP freed terrorists bot the circumstances cannot be compared.
A friend of mine once said hey it is because of their fear that i can walk the street by the neighborhood mosque without any fear, intimidation or humiliation .
As it is the Congress treats the majority Hindus as second class citizens.

Sadly Indian Hindus who have been educated using unhealthy doses of balbharti books propogating anti Hindu pro-socialist nehruvian styled ideas written mostly by leftists and communists from jnu have mostly lost their confidence and sense of identity and pride in being Hindu.
Since the british times we have been divided according to caste and reservations have only aided to the hatred among Hindus.Bloodthirsty muslim rulers like Tipu Sultan have been glorified as great patriots while chapters on the destruction of temples, forced conversions, massacres and autocrcies by many muslim rulers like Aurangzeb, Ghazni etc have been omitted in toto,on the pretext of maintianing communal harmony, while untouchability is always played up showing brahmins in bad light.
we keep blaming ourselves for all evil perpetrated by the jihadis thanks to the constant reminder by the media and politicians of godra and babri masjid.
The spin and brainwash is so intense the big lie is so well presented that people end up believing it.
Vallabhbhai Patel famously remarked, just before the partition, that in India there's only one nationalist Muslim: Jawaharlal Nehru. And, three decades before the partition of India, Sri Aurobindo raised the question about the fundamental intolerance of Islam: "How is it possible to live peacefully with a religion whose principle is 'I will not tolerate you?' How are you going to have unity with these people?" Sri Aurobindo cited the Koranic injunction (chapter IX, verse 5): "Slay the Idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them captive, and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent [i.e. convert to Islam] and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave them free. Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful."
When wil indians learn from the mistake made by prithvi raj chauhan ?
The state of the minority Kashmiri Pandit Community is a sufficient indicator of the way the state treats Hindus. I shudder to think of the state of Hindus in a Muslim dominated India.
anyways research deflowering of aisha -on google if u have time to kill

Hi

That was a nice post / compendium of info.

While
- Indian companies : Infosys, WIPRO, ... TATA motors, ....
- Indian Cities : Bangalore, Hyderabad, Mumbai ..... and
- Indian Citizens : right from our beloved president are of world class ,

are our policy and politicians up to the mark ?

are we, as CITIZENS being treated fairly by our police, judiciary, administration (including public works), the politicians and so on ??

I sincerely believe that the police have a long way to go in our country

Look at the way we are responding to terror

Terror being a worldwide phenomenon, do our POLICE have the strength and the INTELLIGENCE and the COMPETENCE to win ?

are our police up to the mark - THIS is not just a patriotic issue, it needs a lot of planning, preparedness and FOCUS above all to control terror

there is NO meaning in just crying about autonomy.

WE BADLY NEED COMPETENCE


more on the sad state of Indian police at
http://tinyurl.com/reo2a

regards
vinayak

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